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email: text: I think holding the two new year and July fouth Tournament is stupid. It seemed to me that their is some sort of competition going on between the different organization, which org. is better and bigger and can do more things. The celebration are supposed to to bring hmong people together and share a common bond. It looks more like people are thinking, if you can do something, I can do it better. This kind of additude between organization and people is what separate hmong from the rest of society. I understand from an individual point of view, where is a lot of competition, it is good to think that way. Like, for example in sport or in situation where only the best is being rewarded, this is understandable. I don't understand, we all want to improve and make things better of all hmong, but competting against one another is not the way. IF the different Org. wants to help, they should look into something else that will benefit the Hmong or support one another and make one big event that everyone will remember. It is rediculouse that we all are working towards the same goal, but at the same time, we are trying to bring down the other. I am probably boring some people with this, but I think most of you would agree with me.

email: text: it's pretty good so far, but just haven't got to the real hard situtions yet and street that's all. at least i know there isn't just white people on the net!!!

email: pinkachooooo@hotmail.com text: I only went to ONE new year and ONE July fourth tournament, and I don't see any difference in either events. Don't you agree?????? But I like the new years because you can cuddle up with your love one. At the July Fourth, it's hella humid and all you do is stink. Man, July fourth should be in CALIFORNIA with the new year...CALIFORNIA's the bommb!!!!! email: masterpo@jps.net text: I think that Hmong kids can get marry as young as 9, as long as they are willing, But they must know that their mommy and daddy won't take care of their brats when they already got their own brats to worry about. I don't think parents should force marriages either, unless they have been forced to get married to each other and they want someone to suffer it also...that's all..time to go!

email: pclor@ucdavis.edu text: It is unfortunate that as a community, we can not agree upon a singular time nor a singular place to hold our festivities. A common vision for many of us, is the union of the entire Hmong community to celebrate our heritage. However, since there exists two of each festivity, the only way to approach such a misfortune, is by keeping in mind that one has a choice in choosing which festivity to attend.

email: text: I think that there shouldn't even be two of the same thing going on in one state. There has been only 1 of each for so many years. These events were supose to be something fun for the Hmong people to enjoy and to remember good things by. The Lao Family has fought fo so long to be recognized, to let us Hmong be heard. Now all these other people are turning it into a competition thing. Yes they make money, but where's the respect!?!The New Year celebration is for the Hmong people to talk, have fun, and remember the times that has happened tru out the year, just like in Laos and Thailand. Now it has become a New Year Market. All the vendors hurl around foegetting that this is the "NEW YEAR CELEBRATION" not a flea market to get rid of their junk! Who ever that can stop all this mess, should do it right away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

email: blee@oit.swrcb.ca.gov text: Suck! Hmong traditions are totally scorned and destroyed. It is a land of opportunities in this country, however. You can do whatever you want if you have the resources and means and do it accordingly to established statues (laws). Personally, I despite those who duplicated an event meant such much to the people- especially cultures and traditions

email: text: i think we have taken this new year and tournament thing too far. its use to be a celebration, but now its all about the dough. people dont care that its suppose to be a celebration of our culture. these events represent that we are hmong and that we are proud to be hmong. but now these its all about the dough, the big old $$$$$. this makes the celebrations not special anymore. its just like candy once you have too much you are gonna get bored and move on. i thik that is going to happen to these celebrations too

email: www.sbgbtp@hotmail.com text: Its a great opportunity to enjoy old and pave the way on to new friendships. It is unfortunate that the hmong youth today are not so educated that they see these as opportunities to cause violent acts that not only hurt each other but hurts the entire Hmong community. They think that by showing there might with their gangs that they can forget the years of neglect from the parents and find a new well being inside their gangs.There is meanwhile a conflict on whether to keep practicing the decades old Hmong culture or try to gain accepentence from an unwillingly white washed community.

email: text: I think that two new year and two july tournaments is not right. Why? Its so dump, we are all hmong and we belong together. I don't see why there are so many of the same thing when we could just have one, where everybody could be together. I also think that some hmong people just want to make more money by having their own new year or tournaments. What I'm trying to say is that they don't agreed in having one. Well. this is what I think about it. Well, at lease we have fun that's the mine thing about new year and tournaments.

email: text: I think they are only a waste of money being spent. Its a good time for hmong businesses to get out and its good for entertainers to get young teens buying their products.... but, It is a good time for guys to pick up girls and verse visa

text: i think it's cool cuz it's twice the fun but if its cuz other people wanna make money but not with others at the seperate new year or tournament then it's just some messed up thing

email: pakou_x@hotmail.com text: As I see it, the Hmong people are becoming greedy. Lao Family has done a great job at preparing the annual New Year and July Tournament. The fact that there are two Tournaments on the same weekend is not for entertaining the Hmong public. It was there to see who can make more money. I'll just make my opinion short and simple.

Lao Family is putting on great gatherings. Why would another organization start something to jeopardize that? I understand that there has to be competition but why can't it be on another weekend? Have a new theme instead of the "July 4th Tournament". It's like there is a copycat and the only one winning is the one who makes the most cash. As far as I'm concern, there should be 1 of a great thing. It means more and people appreciate the time there better. Too much of something can be less meaningful. I didn't even bother to support the group at Washington County. Como has it going and my family and all my cousins were keeping it real and true to Lao Family.

The New Year, what was up with that? 2 New Years doesn't make it twice the fun. With 2, it seems like us hmoob are disorganized, not supportive of each other, and tsis sib hlub in the eyes of the elders and outside race. It was not necessary to have one at the Metrodome last year. Everyone had fun at RiverCentre. Metrodome was only there to make money again. A copycat. Why can't hmoob people come up with more original themes, like a music sale or book sale or something? Again, my family and my cousings didn't support that New Year.

I SAY KEEP THE OLD TRADITIONS OF EVENTS. START NEW ONES WITH ORGINALITY AND THOUGHTS, RATHER THEN MONEY AND SUPERIORITY.

Comments on my thoughts, email me.

Thanks, PAKOU

email: text: i think that we should just have one really big new year and tournament. it is better for all the hmong people to come together and celebrate. too many different celebrations divide us. then email: lowface@aol.com text: I think its pretty kool cept 4 the hardcore violence and all. Us hmong people should all get along cuz if we as hmong people can't get along than, we all shall die because of everyone against us we as a same race should all stick together.

email: text: I think that this show how the Hmong are still not united. Everyone is for themself, this will decrease the leverage for Hmong people as general. I hope that the Leader who hold such position would compromise and do what is best for the people and the community, instead of one own personal gain or politic. The same old stab in the back, will result in chaos. Sometime you wonder why Hmong are second class citizen to which ever country they live or why over our history we can't overtake any other group because peb lub siab phem. Love first, greed doesn't accomplish anything.

email: text: "me well i wouldn't really know but i know that if i was there then it would have been fun. To bad i don't lilve in minnesota because i live in fresno. I hope that all of you guys out there are having a great time. I really want to come up there and say hi. well hi and good-bye"

email: vangl@netzero.net text: I think that having two new years is pathetic and pointless. A new year is usually a once-a-year event to celebrate the up coming year. But by having two new years, there is competition between the two party, over who should run the new year. It is now no longer a celebration, but instead once-a-year chance for the dominating party to become overwhelm with greed.

Lee Vang Clovis, CA

email: hlub36@hotmail.com text: How come this web site has so much about all this shit and none about our religion. I am makeing a web site on our religion and can't find shit on it. I don't really care about the past, we got to look towords the future and see if we will still have our religion.

email: Woman_here1@yahoo.com text: I think that the two years and two tourament thing really just shows anyone how greedy and stupid that these celebrations are. Its more about making capital then celebrating an event that is significant in the hmong culture. It also shows how weak and easily the hmong people can be turned against each other due to the fact that everyone wants money. We look stupid instead of happy. Is there such a thing as a Hmong's New email: hellycopter@hotmail.com text: I think that there is obviously competition and it's just plain stupid. It's hard for other people to understand our culture and it's hard for our young teens to understand and value our culture when the leaders of our community cannot come together and just celebrate together. It's not even a celebration anymore; it's all about the money. It seems that we have forgotten the original purposes of the new year celebration and the soccer tournaments. It's a shame that we are throwing away our cultural reasons to be celebrating for the wealth of money. It's not special anymore...they say it's quality that counts, not quantity, and I feel that the more tournaments and new years we have during one year, the less it will mean to the people of our community. The elders in our community blame us, the younger generation, for not holding on to our cutural traditions, but how can we hold on when they're so hypocritical. It angers me. I don't like the fact that we have two new years and two soccer tournaments; it gets too redundant. I also don't like the idea of having our own clan new years on the side. We're all Hmong. Why do we want to keep breaking down into our own little groups. I truly think that we could do so much more if we worked together and it would have so much more meaning. I have lots to say on this matter, so if you would like to hear more about what I think, feel free to email me at the above address. thanks! hl:)‰

text: i thought the two new years was reallie dumb because it was much harder to find people. if you didn't know which new year your relatives were going to, you were not able to find them. and as for the july fourth tournaments, i reallie don't attend those so i don't have any suggestions on that.